I’ve never been a fan of Jean Calvin’s theology.
Even before I learned who Calvin was or what his five points were all about, I was in disagreement with him by way of his theological descendants on such things as “once saved, always saved”. As a young adult, I took an interest in Reformed Theology when a friend of mine became active in a Presbyterian church. I made a point of understanding the debate between Arminism and Calvinism and what I found was that Calvinism is a biblical doctrine. No, seriously. I had not realized that Reformed folks held a high-view of Scripture and that the “Doctrines of Grace” where thoroughly rooted in the Biblical text. That being said, I believe that a doctrine can be biblical and still be wrong. How? Flawed hermeneutics.
Calvin and company viewed Scripture through a flawed hermeneutical lens which resulted in seeing such things as ‘predestination’ and ‘perseverance of the saints’ when a different lens would have revealed something else. Thanks to a sermon by Mark Driscoll, I realized one evening not long ago that my problem with Calvinism is this metaphorical lens through which it views and interprets the Bible.
Mark was teaching about the doctrine of Predestination in his series “Religion Saves + 9 Other Misconceptions” when I had my epiphany. After a reference that he made in his lesson to two ancient church fathers; Origen and Augustine, I found myself thinking, “What about Jewish theologians?”. I realized that Mark was citing two people from Gentile backgrounds who read the Scriptures with Greco-Roman eyes. (See this and this.) As I thought about it some more, I understood that this is my problem with the doctrine of Predestination as well as Calvinism as a whole: it is the product of a Western/Gentile worldview and not an Eastern/Jewish worldview. Consequently, I went in search of Judaism’s take on predestination aka “determinism”(For an interesting discussion on God’s sovereignty and philosophical determinism, see this. For one rabbi’s attempt to answer questions on determinism, see this.) . Here’s what I found.
Josephus, the Jewish historian who lived comfortably in the lap of the Roman Empire wrote for his Roman patron(s) that there were three main sects of Judaism in his day and that one of the ways to distinguish them was by their deterministic views. According to Josephus, the Sadducees were the least deterministic, believing that God had given man free will and left him to get on with life. The Essenes were the most deterministic, holding that all is mapped out. No choices. No freedom. All is decided. Between these two poles were the Pharisees who held that while God sovereignly rules his creation, he permits humans the moral freedom and responsibility to choose between right and wrong.1
The Bible is clear: Saul of Tarsus was a Pharisee. In fact he was a rather “successful” Pharisee, meaning that he was very good at doing and being whatever it was that made one a Pharisee. Why not then assume that Saul held typical Pharisaical views of theology? Furthermore, when Saul of Tarsus became the Apostle Paul, why believe that his Pharisaical education evaporated and was replaced with Calvin’s systematic theology? It seems to me that when we read Paul’s statements about God’s “foreknowledge”, “predestination” and “election”, we should strive to understand them from the perspective of a first century Pharisee and not St. Augustine via Calvin and other Reformers.
I believe that Calvin’s systematic theology goes wrong because it interprets the Scripture from a Western/Greek perspective. Fate is a Greek concept; not a Jewish one. (Note: fatalism is not a feature of Calvinist theology, however it seems to me that it is a common error among Calvinists.) That isn’t to say that there weren’t Jews who held ideas which were similar to “fate”. However, there is not much reason to believe that the Apostle Paul was one of them. In fact, there is reason to believe that as a Pharisee, Paul held a sort of middle position which acknowledged the sovereignty of God without relinquishing the ability of men to make genuine moral choices (as opposed to predetermined moral choices). Consequently, any interpretation of Paul which sounds more like hard-determinism is, in my opinion, suspect. That would include Calvin’s doctrine of predestination.
NB: In the interest of transparency and honesty, readers should know that everything in green was added following comments by Kyle. They were not present in the original post which his comments address.

11 responses so far ↓
Dave Carlson // March 8, 2008 at 1:39 am |
Hi, i like the comment in the Enchiridian (handbook on christian doctrine) by St. Augusine, after a long “calvinistic” discussion of predestinaiton he said, “so let us pray that we might be among the elect.”
I think often the problem is what a history professor I once had called, “hardening of the categories.” St Augustine alllow for a bit of mystery.
I’ve not read much Calvin, but I think he allowd for some as well. Can’t say so much for hard core 5 pointers. Anyway, the 5 points, while found in Calvin, really were from a later debate by others against others. The tulip is the bumpersticker of that debate – not the treatise.
amtog // March 8, 2008 at 8:22 am |
Thanks for that Dave.
I believe that I once read that Calvin, during his lifetime, found that folks were getting too worried about whether or not they were “elect” and so he had to warn them not to worry themselves into the sin of doubt.
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Kyle // March 16, 2008 at 4:32 am |
Sorry to say but I think that this post is flawed in multiple ways. First, you say we should look through “Jewish” eyes, you cite Josephus. Funny, Josephus wasn’t a Christian, should we then interpret Scripture through a non-Christian hermenuetic? I mean if we are going to look through things in “Jewish” eyes we might as well throw out the hypostatic union, cause in “Jewish” eyes Christ wasn’t the Messiah. Further, who was the main audience of Paul’s epistles? Not Jews (Acts 9:15). It was the Gentile nations. Are you assuming, and can you raise proof, that Paul wouldn’t put aside his Pharisaical views and relate to his audience via the culture they were used to; Biblical evidence seems to point otherwise (c.f. Acts 17:22-24; 1 Corinthians 9:19-22). I mean really, there is Biblical evidence that Paul gave up his Pharisaical theology (c.f. Colossians 2:8-15; Galatians 1:14). Secondly, you say, “I believe that Calvin’s systematic theology goes wrong because it interprets the Scripture from a Western/Greek perspective.” This demonstrates a clear lack of understanding in Reformed hermenuetics, or even of Calvin’s Institutes. Calvin did not interpret Scripture through a Western/Greek perspective. The governing hermenuetical principle for the Reformed is “Scripture interpreting Scripture.” Does Sola Scriptura ring a bell? You can’t be serious when you say, “I made a point of understanding the debate between Arminism and Calvinism,” and still make comments like the one above. Thirdly, you wrongly equate predestination with determinism, they aren’t the same “head for head.” Go read some philosophy, strict determinism leads to fatalism, and Biblical philosophy and Biblical predestination are not fatalistic. Further, you seem to be of the impression that if predestination is true then there can’t be personal moral responsibility, once again, if you maintain this you have shown your lack of any education within the Reformed world.
I’m not saying I agree with Calvinism. What I am saying is that if you are going to “answer” for Calvinistic doctrine you are going to have to do a much better job then simply asserting they aren’t viewing things through “Jewish” eyes. You are going to have to prove that their principle of Scripture interpreting Scripture is fundamentally wrong and that they failed to do this themselves, you are going to have to answer for Covenant Theology, the larger schema that the soteriological TULIP is grounded in (seriously, go ahead and breather fire against TULIP, but with Covenant Theology in the background that’s like threatening to beat up a five year old when his 20 year old kick boxing brother is right behind him. Don’t have a narrow view of TULIP just because most neo-Calvinists do…two words: Covenant Theology). To do this you need to answer to the great minds of Covenant Theology, like Herman Witsius (read him and tell me if he didn’t use “Jewish” theology), Meredith Kline (once again a top-rated OT scholar), Casper Olevinus, etc. It might also help you a lot to deal honestly with their exegesis of “predestination” texts (i.e. Romans 9, Ephesians 1, Romans 8), simply asserting “they have it wrong” hardly answers for the amount of sound Biblical exegesis produced. Then you must prove your own heremenuetical principle that we should read Scripture through “Jewish” eyes, and prove that no Reformed theologian has done this (I suggest reading Geerhardus Vos’ Biblical Theology, and then see if you can still write this post).
So all in all your “critique” well…it wasn’t much of a critique. However, if you do the above, successfully, I am sure you will come the Arminian champion of the 21st century! No offense is meant through this post. You took the liberty to critique Calvinism in an open forum, and I am just returning the favor by critiquing your critique of Calvinism. He who does not want to be scrutinized hasn’t a right to blog (right?).
Grace.
amtog // March 16, 2008 at 9:12 am |
Hi Kyle,
Thanks for the comment.
You’re absolutely right: a person who blogs (particularly on such heavy subjects as theology) invites scrutiny and criticism. I can take it.
Additionally, I make no pretense about being well-read or widely educated. I did make an effort to understand the tension between Arminianism and Calvinism at a point long ago and to be honesty, I’m not at all surprised to learn that years later without constantly revisiting what I read at that time, I’ve lost quite a bit of what I learned. This is not the only post flawed in “multiple ways” at this blog.
Anyway, I’m giving careful consideration to your comments and I’m thinking about some rhetorical questions that you asked (as opposed to the snarky comments) and I’ll probably get around to posting some thoughts later.
Feel free to criticique those too.
Kyle // March 17, 2008 at 9:29 am |
Snarky? None of the above comments were snarky.
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Carl // December 27, 2008 at 5:32 am |
I have been a Methodist all my life and raised my children in the Methodist church. My son even goes to a Methodist college. Now, in the middle of his junior year, he tells me that he wants to go to seminary school and study Reformed theology. I am really having a difficult time dealing with the concept of the “elect”. I believe in the concept of the prevenient grace of God which beckons people toward faith in God. Don’t we have the free will to either accept that gift from God or to deny it? The concept that God creates humanity with some predestined for damnation and the “elect” predestined for salvation just does not make sense.
amtog // January 5, 2009 at 11:41 am |
Hi Carl,
As you’ve probably guessed, I haven’t been blogging much here lately but I do check from time to time and I want to say that I appreciate you commenting.
I hope your son studies Reformed Theology with an understanding that it is not THE THEOLOGY. Personally, I would like to study Reformed Theology so that I might have a clearer understanding of it, reserving the right to disagree with it of course.
God give you peace on this family issue.
Scooter@PJ // November 11, 2009 at 8:05 pm |
After reading this I think that I will go listen to Driscoll’s sermon, I’ve read that book and didn’t really notice anything significant in that chapter. I need to re-read it when I get home.
I say that to note that I HAVE NOT listened to the sermon yet so my view may change, probably not, but may.
I say humbly, this is probably the worst argument I’ve ever herd against Calvinism. To say that someone who is a western christian cannot have correct biblical interpretation simply because of their pagan background (before they became believers) is preposterous. To say that ignores the guidance of the Holy Spirit to ALL believers. Origen and Augustine were not perfect and had their many flaws, but they were not 100% flawed in their thinking because they were from the West.
I’m sorry but that is just a very weak argument.
But I do agree that paul was in the middle ground. The bible is silent on supporting either extreme of this debate. But a few things must be remembered when we think about it.
1) God is sovereign, including that he knows everything that was, that is, and that will be, he is not surprised by any of our decisions.
2) God chose to glorify himself in the most excellent way, through the atonement of man through Jesus.
3) we CANNOT make the argument that “it isn’t fair” when we consider election (which I think when this whole debate boils down, this is left in the pot). perfect morality is synonymous with God’s character, and if we say that we know what is moral more-so than he does, we make ourselves out to be God and sin.